Is the demand for Gay Marriage down?

This is a question no one is asking after LGBT Noise’s  March For Marriage on Sunday. In 2009 Over 3,000 people took part in that Year’s March For Marriage. This year the number is down to 2000 (Figure from Irish Times). That is compared to the 5,000 22,000 people took part in Dublin Pride Parade and the 100,000 who lined the streets of Dublin for Pride.

Why is this?

Is it people are willing to give the Civil Partnership Bill a chance? (Despite its ignorance of children)

Is it due to the general confusion about what the bill does? (I know I have been asked questions on this)

Is LGBT Noise actually on the sidelines on Gay Public Opinion?

Are people fed up of the Marriage Debate and want a quite life for a bit?

Who knows the real answer. But it will be interesting to see how this goes on.

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Author: Stephen

Cork born and bred, proud European and Irishman. Involved in many organisations and politics. Also writes for SpirtualityIreland.org and UCC Express.

15 thoughts on “Is the demand for Gay Marriage down?”

  1. Catching these questions a bit late, but I think it’s not so much that people are content with civil partnership, but that they realize that it will be easier to push for something more once civil partnerships are part of reality and we have something to point to both to show the deficiencies in it and to see how people react to it so that the arguments can be put in the best way. I’m not quite the best person to give an answer on why people don’t turn up to demonstrations, not being that into Pride and taking a rational choice approach to turning up to these kinds of demonstrations, believing there are more effective approaches from my point of view, even if I wouldn’t dismiss the point of them. But I’m not fed up with the marriage debate, and I’m sure many of the 1000 who didn’t turn this year aren’t either. It’s just a matter of tactics and timing, I think.

    1. I would agree with you on the fact that there is more effective approaches. But that shows how out of touch Noise is. And I think that is the point I was trying to get across more then the Marriage one. People do care about the marriage issue, but like you dont think a protest on a Sunday in the middle of August will do much for it.

  2. I have to say I disagree wholeheartedly with the attitude that marching is a waste of time. Marching gets the community together, gives a sense of solidarity in a common cause…get media attention -this march got majoy coverage in all the broadsheets and even most of the red tops and I heard it soundbits on the radio all day long. Ok, the choice to march in august could looked at again for more impact

    but I and many of my mates were energised and motivated my the march for marriage on the 22nd. Marching along will of course not change policy but combined with good media campaigning and continued lobbying, it has a valuable place in terms of education and visibility.

    check out the links here to lots of international websites who are spreading the word on this campaign thanks to the march….

    Change.org http://gayrights.change.org/blog/view/4000_march_for_marriage_equality_in_ireland

    Pink News
    http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/08/23/dubliners-march-for-same-sex-marriage-rights/

    ILGA
    http://www.ilga-europe.org/home/guide/country_by_country/ireland/same_sex_couples_call_for_marriage_quality

    The Advocate
    http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2010/08/22/Irish_Protest_for_Equality/

    1. Its a pity the numbers used in those articles were wrong. The point of this post was it generated very little media notice here. It was a march during the “silly season”. Not many decision makers take notice of those.

  3. HI again Stephen,

    Thanks for the reply and I appreciate your points. However, I as at the march are there were easily 3-3,500 people as the crowd moved and marched towards The Dep of Justice. Yes, this is a little down from last year but taking into account that some people will be satisfied with the Civil Partnership Act combined with the fact that many (I know because lots of my mates are examples) people are yet unaware of what they will be lacking through this act….it is, to my mind, a great turn out.

    It also did generate lots of media attention here. Was on the 6o’clock news if I remember correctly….reported over and over on loads of radio and all the major papers & even the red tops mentioned it with big pics of the crowd. I take your point about the choice of August not being the best, but perhaps with wetaher being bad and other big news events in say Sept…the march would not have been so successful.

    The international links I put up there are significant too as they show this type of activism is in resonates with movements abraod…and since other movements in other countries have succeeded in changing laws through activities including marching – it inspires hope and a sense of much needed solidarity.

    The march combined with conintued exposure in the media to gay topics plus the most important – the lobbying of political parties done by other great gay rights groups working for us…all help to make things happen. I respect Noise a great deal for having the gutts to at least get out there and try 🙂

    1. The official figure is in the region of 2,000. no where near 3,000. LGBT Noise inflated their figures for the papers.

      To be quite honest the march has changed nothing except create a discussion about the use of them as a campaigning tool. it has achieved nothing.

      That is what matters.

  4. well Stephen it looks as though we are going to have to agree to disagree on this one. I was at the march and the sense of community and solidarity I felt while marching…and more impotantly the sense of energy and fight I felt when leaving means something. I know many people there went away feeling the same.

    To me and everyone who will continue to march and write letters, (and write on blogs like you do)…and who will continue to push our politicians for change, the March for Marriage ment something.

    And to us..That is what matters

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